Showing posts with label HD scanning super 8 to HD. Show all posts
Showing posts with label HD scanning super 8 to HD. Show all posts

Wednesday, November 28, 2012

What makes the Super GR8 Film Festival Awesome!


What makes the Super GR8 Film Festival Awesome!
-by Rhonda Vigeant, Pro8mm


When you think about hubs for independent filmmaking, it is unlikely   Harrisonburg, Virginia would come to mind as a place where extraordinary film projects are being born by the dozens, but this is precisely what happens every fall when two local residents, AKA festival directors Paul Somers and Tim Estep announce that it is time again for the annual Super GR8 Film Festival.

The idea is to make a complete film on one 50-foot roll of Super 8 film with all the edits done in the camera. Filmmakers see their film for the first time on screening night, so the excitement and anticipation is intense, for not only the filmmaker, but the actors and audience as well.

While single roll super 8 film festivals have been around for a number of years, and have a popular following, what happens in Harrisonburg during October and November is a transformation of community rallying around the arts and creative process unlike anything I have ever seen or experienced before in my 30 years of working with the Super 8 medium. 

The awesomeness and uniqueness of Super GR8 is that the entire community gets involved with it.  As a small college town, home to James Madison University, as well as other near-by colleges, beautifully seated around a plethora of Civil War history, the sense of community in Harrisonburg extends well beyond the campus. The vibrant historic down town area is filled with unique non-commercial shopping, art galleries, hand made items and one of a kind eateries.  It is a very special place with very special people, and as one resident says, it is like “CHEERS” – a place where everyone really does know your name.

The elevated sense of community Paul and Tim have created with Super GR8 is a natural fit to a town that already has a sense of creative spirit and identity. A feeling of pride and cooperative, not competitive mindset touches every aspect of this amazingly successful festival, which has a tag line by the way “LIFE IS SUPER GR8”!

Super Gr8 entries are only solicited from local residents during an annual sign up night.  There are a coveted 48 spots, which are quickly spoken for every year.   24 films are made on Super 8 Tri-X Film, and 24 are made on Super 8 Color Negative. Each film type has its own screening night in the beautiful, historic down town Court Square Theatre.

The actors and crew are all local residents.  People in the community open up their homes and businesses to let the filmmakers use their locations.  Dozens of local businesses participate as sponsors.  Local artists design logos, t-shirts and posters for the publicity – which is prominently, displayed everywhere you go.  Innkeepers donate rooms to host festival judges and some of the invited out of town guests.  Even the amazing trophies (which are the only prizes) are amazingly hand crafted from “throw away” broken super 8 cameras, reels and super 8 projectors.  These in themselves are unique relics that rival the beauty of any cookie cutter Hollywood Emmy or Oscar! 

On the night prior to the screenings – the town is a buzz.  Everyone you meet knows about the festival, has either made a film, is in a film, crewed a film, wrote a music score for a film, or knows someone directly involved in some way. 

Paul and Tim prepare for the festival all year by looking for super 8 cameras that are in working condition.  A local camera shop fixes many, but Paul confesses he is learning more about the process himself so that all participants will have good working equipment.  Cameras are lent to anyone who needs one. You just stop by Tim or Paul’s’ house and check one out.  A majority of the people who enter the festival have never made a film before – or have only made one for a previous Super GR8 festival.  So the task falls on the shoulders of the festival directors to work with the newbie’s, sometimes for hours on end, teaching them how to use the camera, and always making themselves available, day or night to answer and questions.

The Festival was founded is 2010 with the first years films shot only on black and white film.  In 2011, Pro8mm was asked if they would like to jump on as a sponsor, so for the past two years, we have provided at cost both the black and white and color negative film, the processing and HD scanning. 

When we told Tim and Paul back in 2011 that we wanted to come to the festival, they were surprised but happy to have their efforts validated in this way.  This year, we returned again, and were asked to be judges.  When residents ask us why we have come all the way to Harrisonburg, Virginia from Burbank,CA, we tell them it is an extension of our love of super 8 and we want to be part of the love fest.  To be part of the magic created by this outrageously fun, grass roots Super 8 Spectacular, complete with after parties at local venues is for us, amazing!

So with our involvement, Super GR8 has added on a night before the festival where we present to the newbie’s and predominately non-filmmakers to help them to begin to understand some of the basic filmmaking process, and think where else they might want to use the medium in their life.

 
The amount of people giving time, effort and commitment that goes into not only the films, but also the sound tracks, the posters that each filmmaker made for their own film is immeasurable.   As the audience began to come in and settle in their seats, I looked around at the hundreds of people who attended this sold out event and it was extremely emotional for Phil and I on many levels. The house was packed. I thought to myself, when was the last time you could fill a room on a Tuesday night with 300 people who paid the price of admission to see something that is a complete unknown, just to support their friends, their community, and be part of something bigger than themselves?

Super 8 has been our life’s work for 30 years.  And here it is, the end of 2012. The future of film origination from where we sit in Hollywood is changing so fast.  And yet, as I looked around the room of predominately 20-30 something’s, it was clear to me that Super 8 has indeed come full circle and is going to have a new life, in the loving hands from where it came.  Some in the hands of aspiring filmmakers, but mostly in the hands of regular people. People who want to create art. People who want to collaborate, not compete.    People who are a bit counter culture, and thrive in that environment.

One event can change a community.  Two people, Paul Somers and Tim Estep through the Super GR8 Film Festival changed the way their community looks at themselves and as a result changed Harrisonburg in so many ways. Creating a sense of community is what most people want, but don’t always know how to create.  Yet, a 3 and a half-minute cartridge of 50 feet of Super 8 film had the power to move an entire town to have an abundant amount of  fun this fall and create an experience that is not just Super Gr8 but Super awesome!

As I felt the energy of the audience explode during the sold out two  screening nights, and found myself “all in” as both a judge and a “wannabe “Harrisonburg Groupie, I found myself wondering if everyone over at the multiplex down the road was having as much fun as we were. But I already knew the answer!

Monday, July 16, 2012

5 Cool Things You Can (and Should!) Do with Your Home Movies!


Tech Talk: 5 NEW Cool Things You can (and should!) Do with your Home Movies!

We already share pictures with friends over the internet and upload instantly from our electronic devices. Why not do the same with your home movies?

The ability to bring cinema into the home for personal story telling changed us as a culture and continues to impact us today. These aren’t just “some old home movies” to watch on an old projector at Thanksgiving! They are the stories of our lives that can provide insight, enjoyment and humor to our families all year long. Technology has given us the ability to share our legacy in a way never before possible. Here are some ideas to get you started:

1) Upload your home movies to cloud via YouTube or Vimeo: Since being found in 2005, YouTube is the world’s most popular online video community, allowing millions of people to discover, watch and share originally created videos, and bring personal stories out of the living room and onto the worldwide web. It is free and easy to set up a YouTube or Vimeo site dedicated to your home movies. It is a simple as signing up with your email address, and start uploading! You will get a dedicated web page (i.e.: www.youtube.com/VigeantHomeMovies) that you can cut and paste virtually anywhere. Home movie clips can be set as private or public, with password protection if you only want certain family members to have access to them. If you are looking to share publicly, you can “tag” names, places, dates and events in the clip. These key words will come up in the Google search. Bonus! When a video clip lives on “the cloud,” it makes a great back up of your home movie files in case of a catastrophe. Floods, Fires, Hard Drive crashes; you name it, it has happened! By storing your files on the World Wide Web in the cloud they are protected even if a disaster occurs.

2) Burn Them to Disc- Blu-Ray with WiFi:
Since 2008, the cost of Blu-ray players has come down significantly, even for a very high quality player. The manufactures have added new features that make the players more universal. A new Sony BDP-S390, (is around $100) plays: BD-R (Recordable Blu-Ray) in perfect FULL HD 1080p at amazing quality, regular DVD, and has Wi-Fi capabilities with applications such as NetFlix, YouTube, Pandora and more built directly into the player! (This is another great way to watch that YouTube channel you just created on your television instead of the computer! J) Many of the newer players also have a USB 2.0 universal flash drive component, allowing you to play virtually any media such as music, photos and films, through your Blu-Ray player. If you are thinking about putting your home movies on Blu-Ray to share with the family, a new Blu-Ray player is essential to making these components run smoothly.

3) G-connect- Wireless storage for your iPad: It may not be feasible to carry your new Blu-Ray player around wherever you go, but if you have an iPad, you already know that the portability of this device is one of its greatest assets. In order to play your home movies on an iPad, they have to be recorded in an Apple TV (.m4v) file format. You then have to upload the file to your computer from your hard drive, connect the iPad, and down load the file. But at-last! G-Technology has just come out with a portable, wireless storage device for your iPad or iPhone. It is designed for “on-the-go” access to your content, by streaming it directly into your iPad using WiFi, without ever downloading the files to your computer or the iPad itself. Upload your home movies to the G-connect device (instead of a hard drive) and you are ready to go. Very cool! You will knock the socks off grandma with this one!
http://www.g-technology.com/products/g-connect.cfm


4) Edit: Imagine yourself as head of your own studio, editing your home movies to tell a specific story. Just like in the studios, the editor has the power to bring a story together in a creative and emotional way. With all the tools readily available on your home computer, it is easy to repurpose your original films into edited story telling.

A Story….Last Christmas one of my family members made me a 5 minute montage of all the family Christmas, starting with my grandparents in the 1950’s through my own adulthood. Edited to ‘Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas,’ I saw 3 generations- my grandparents, my parents, and myself as children opening our gifts and playing with our new toys on Christmas morning. It was so fun to see how the traditions of our family Christmas have stayed true through so many years.

Today all Mac computers come with a program called iMovie, which allows you to cut clips and put your films to music. PC’s also typically come with some type of editing software such as Windows Movie Maker. For the more ambitious or experienced editor, you can purchase an editing software program such as Adobe Premier (PC editing) or Final Cut Pro X (Mac editing.) These have many more options for creating special effects that punch up your editing.

Creating your own short story or music video can be amazingly fun, easy, and a great way to re-purpose original content into funny, serious, or loving stories to share with your family.  Gift it to family members for birthdays or holidays. On a more serious note, edited clips of an individual could also been used devotedly to portray ones life and help families heal through hard times when a loved one passes. A montage clip of the person’s life can play at a wake or funeral, giving friends and family comfort through the moving images and happy times of a person’s life.

5) Funding: Technology has given us the ability to share our legacy in a way never before possible, and there couldn’t be a more exciting time. Many families are overwhelmed by the expense of treating their home movies like the studios would, even though in their hearts, they know that is what they would like to do. There are now several options to get funding for your home movie transfer!

Crowd Funding: There are now several websites where you create a fundraising campaign, called ‘crowdfunding,’ to raise money for personal projects. Someone in your family may want to propose that everyone in the family makes a donation, which could be used to digitize everyone’s material, and then everyone in the family could get the entire library on a hard drive and edit their own story. Project goals might include organizing the entire library on a hard drive, iPad, Blu-Ray or uploaded to the cloud. Some examples of Crowd Funding platforms include Kickstarter.com, GoFundMe.com, IndieGoGo.com, ChipIn.com

Stock Footage: Could your family home movies be worth money? You bet they can! A single clip of 8mm film sold on Getty Images for over $5,000! How is that possible you may ask? Filmmakers are often looking for authentic 8mm clips that capture specific events, people, time periods and so much more so that they don’t have to go to the added expense of re-creating them. These clips are called Stock Footage, and are made available to the public by posting short clips onto the web. When transferred professionally, there is greater likelihood that your clips could be purchased and downloaded to be re-purposed in documentaries, films, television shows, and more.   As long as the films are your original material, your home movies could be the most valuable asset in your attic! Stock Footage platforms include GettyImages.com, Pond5.com, istockphoto.com and many more!

Thanks for reading 5 NEW Cool Things you can (and should!) do with your Home Movies!! As you may have figured out, this is just a short list among hundreds of applications for watching, editing, playing and funding your home movie project. So what are you waiting for!

Have a home movie idea you would like to share? Post it here or email us at info@pro8mm.com to share your idea in our next newsletter!


© Pro8mm 2012. www.pro8mm.com

Tuesday, April 7, 2009

Pro Rez Now Available !


WE ARE NOW OFFERING PRO REZ HD SCANS DIRECT TO
COMPRESED HD FORMATS!

TEST IT TODAY!
$108.00

Film, process and scan to Data DVD
Pro8mm is now offering direct encodings of Super8 and 16mm film images to compressed HD file format Apple's ProRez422 HQ. This new system is a highly efficient and versatile way to use small gauge film in High Definition. The files are recorded in real time using a compatible hard drive system directly from the scanner. This significantly reduces the wait time and cost for HD file based sessions. ProRez422 HQ files are ideal for editing & playing high definition on Mac Computers.

ProRez HD files are 1/6th the size of 10 bit uncompressed files. They are 1.33 gigs per minute in 23:98PSF compared to 8 gigs for uncompressed files. This makes them an easier and much faster way to store data. It also makes it easier to move the data from device to device, opening the way for more and less expensive storage options. Given their smaller bit rate, these files can also be played directly on a Mac computers' QuickTime Player. Additionally, they can be used with Final Cut Pro editing software without the need to do additional compression.

Our all inclusive film packages will be available for the new ProRez codec , along with new less expensive drive storage for more savings. With the smaller size, there will be additional saving on Hard Drive space with discounts exceeding 20%.

You can sample this new workflow for $108.00, which includes a single roll of our Pro8mm film, award winning same day processing, prepped, cleaned, scanned and encoded in High Definition using ProRez HQ 422 which we will put on Data DVD.

The price for using ProRez HQ422 Codec and eSata or Firewire 800 Mac formatted drive in a scan session is $80.00 per hour. There is no additional cost for downloading to a drive. The Prorez codec can be used in all 3 common HD Standards: 1080P 23:98 PSF, and 1080I (59.94.), 1080P 25PSF.


You can also test this new workflow for free by requesting the new Pro8mm Data Demo. The Data Demo has samples of all Pro8mm Data workflows. 10 Bit Uncompressed (SD/HD), DVCAM Compressed SD, and the new ProRez HD 422.

Thursday, January 29, 2009

Sweet Leaf Party




This is the best Super 8 example we have seen so far from a client who has used our work flow for Pro8mm film, processing and scanning to HD on our M2 Scanner to put up work on the internet. We love how the material looks on VIMEO compared to YouTube. Vimeo allows you to put up to 1 gig of data!!! Pro8mm does native film scans of super 8, regular 8 and 16mm to 1080. The difference is remarkable compared to scans that are up-rezed or line doubled. We also LOVE how HD looks on Vimeo compared to YouTube and we encourage filmmakers to try this site!!! We hope this work inspires filmmakers to scan to native HD! We had a blast working with Trigger Studios!
Watch the video "Sweet Leaf Party" by Break Beat!

ENCODING SUPER 8


Encoding Super 8, by Philip Vigeant


Encoding is the process of converting motion picture images into something that can be played in a computer. Computers handle film images differently than it does analogue video or digital video. Because this is a new way to look at pictures there are many changes to the traditional ways we look at them. As with all new things there a lots of choices and big companies are trying their hardest to make themselves the new standard. Things are changing so rapidly that I fear even this article might have some outdated notions before it gets published. But since so many super8 users are exploring these options I thought it would be good to try and explain some of the exciting opportunities for Super8 users in the encoded world.
There are two areas where the computer has proven itself in moving images beyond any argument. First in its ability to edit and manage and second as a way to deliver content cheaply and quickly to an audience. Although these both run through a computer the objectives and the strengths and weakness are completely at opposite sides of the image universe. On the one side you have 35mm features being edited digitally at 2K and now even 4K resolution. On the other you have You-Tube the lowest quality images imaginable that is revolutionizing the film business. The maximum and the minimum resolution have included Super8 film, and being a part of both extremes for what is clearly completely different reasons.
Let’s start with the Max. To max out what you have on Super8 in a computer you have to understand the working parameter of modern computer and storage. Even though Super8 is the smallest form of motion picture film it takes enormous amounts of data to describe each frame. A 10 bit uncompressed minute of Super8 stored at 4:2:2 1920 X 1080 High Definition resolution is 8 Gigabytes of raw data at 23:98PSF. In short hand, this is what most people call 1080p, favored by most people that originate in film. If you work in 1080i which is 29.97 interlaced images, recorded at 59.94i, it would be 10 Gig per minute. In short hand 1080i is preferred by most people who originate in video. In standard definition the same minute of 10 bit uncompressed would be approximately 2 Gigabytes per minute.
Unless you’re in the professional post production world you will probably not have the capacity to play such large data files in real time on your home computer system. This will change as computers and storage devices get faster and cheaper but for now you’re out of luck. For this reason most information is compressed in some way so that lesser systems can handle this amount of data traveling at the speed necessary to play it. The good news is even though you can’t play these files in real time you should be able to access them and convert them to something you can play. One of the advantages of computer digital is that you don’t have to have an expensive tape machine to have a very high resolution version of your images that you can directly access. To do the top quality in Standard Definition in digital video tape you need a Digital Beta deck which costs about $40,000.00. With a 10 bit file you can have the same quality on a hard drive that you can axis from your laptop, so you can get axis to high quality without the expense of high end video decks. This will become even more important as you investigate High Definition. Unlike SD that is dominated by Digital Beta, HD has many competing tape formats that can run over $100,000.00 per deck. With the ever dropping cost of Hard Drives and computing speed this workflow is much more practical for independent filmmakers.
Regardless of how you compress the files it is helpful to start with data put into a form that is most compatible with your system. In Mac World the folder form is .mov which is usually played with a QuickTime Player. In PC world the folder is .avi and the player is most often Windows Media Player. You can play some .mov folders in Windows and some .avi files in Mac but this can get sticky at times. There are also many other players and formats…more about that later.

Once your raw data is put in a folder you have 100 different options on how to compress your motion picture images. This type of compressing is called a Codec. Compressing can be done with a software program or it can be done with a hardware based compressor. Hardware based compressing is often very fast and can usually work the data in real time. Software based encoders will often have to crunch on the data for some time to deliver the new file compressed. Some Codec’s’ are very universal like mpeg2, the one used for all DVD’s. Some are exclusive to particular programs like Macs’ new Pro-Res 422 designed for their new Final Cut Studio 2. You can think of a codec like a tape digital format such as DV Compressed, which is supposed is to be roughly the equivalent to Mini DV in the computer world. On thing that is very different about computer digital is that you can dictate to the program that is doing the encoding what quality level you desire. The program that controls the encoding can adjust parameters including the over all quality, the size and even the number of frames stored per second.
(Optibase Encoder Board)

At Pro8mm we use a hardware based encoder for doing DV compression files. A DV compressed file at its best resolution setting is storing 30 (29.97 exactly) frames per second. This is approximately 1 gigabyte for 4 minutes of Super8 film, (250 Meg per minute). This would be 8 times as compressed as a 10 bit uncompressed file of standard definition raw data. When we compress to the Mpeg2 codec we use an Optibase Hardware Encoder which also has a variable quality setting. In this situation we want the best quality but we need it to play on the average DVD player. Through experience of making thousands of DVD’s of Super8 film we have found the optimum to be a compression that works out to be about 40 megabytes per minute.
One of the more confusing parts of computer based images is to know all the parameters that are needed to get an image to play on your system. For example why will your computer play a commercial DVD and not a 10 bit .mov file? Most computers, having the programs to do so can play a 10 bit file, but they can not play it fast enough to watch it in real time. There is simply not enough speed between it’s’ storage form which is the DVD drive, the computer, and the display. For example my home laptop will not play even a DV compressed folder from a DVD, but it will play a DVD with MPeg2 recording. But if I drag the folder of DV compressed files from the DVD to the desktop it will play. The speed from my DVD player is sufficient to run Mpeg2 but not Dv compressed. The speed from my internal hard drive is fast enough to run DV compressed. If I try to run a 10 bit HD file of 23:98PSF in my computer with Windows Media Player it will play, but it will skip frames and often chokes on the process. If I play the same file in QuickTime it will not work at all. Once you have some of the parameters down you can do incredible things but you need to be prepared when entering this workflow on how to put it all together.
DVD’s can be used in a multitude of ways as both a vehicle to play images in a home player and to store computer files. The DVD is defined not only as a medium but by what is recorded on the medium. The DVD that is designed to play in a DVD home player has files encoded with the codec Mpeg2. In addition these DVD’s have header information so the player can recognize it and the information that can be organized with chapter stops and menus. The DVD’s we use to record on are DVD-R which is the most universal next to the commercial DVD. Some older home DVD players will not play a DVD-R even though the correct data is recorded on them. This is due to the reading systems of the first home DVD players. You can also use a DVD-R as data storage for computers. In this form of DVD, files can but place on the DVD for retrieval by computer systems. In addition to DVD single sided recording you can also use DL dual layer DVD to expand the capacity to 8.5 Gig on a single DVD. To play what is on a DVD you have to have the right hardware and software to do the job. For example if you have home DVD player you can look at the spec page to see what format DVD this player will play. Will it play DVD-R or DVD+R? Most computers are designed to play the different formats of DVD but you have to have the correct software on you computer to play the program. For example you could have a DVD+R DL that have a DV compressed .mov file. So if you computer has DL DVD capacity and a QuickTime Player you should be able to play this file provided your computer has the speed to handle it.
Once you start playing with movie files you quickly see how limited 4.7 Gig of space of is. The solution to this problem is an external Hard Drive. Portable hard drives are the perfect way to transport large data files. Hard Drives range from a low number gigabyte to terabytes. They can have 4 different types of connection and many have some combination of these 4: USB2, Fire wire 400, Fire wire 800 and E-sata. USB2 preferred by PC and Fire wire 400 preferred by Mac can handle the same speed of transfer between your computer and the hard drive. Fire wire 800 about doubles that and E-sata about doubles Fire wire 800. The transfer rate between your computer is important for two reasons. If you are just taking files from your drive and loading it into your computer it takes about 1 GIG a minute at USB2 speed to transfer the data. 40 gigs of data take 40 minutes. If you want to play the data from your drive on your computer without transferring it to your computer then the connection speed must support the data rate needed to play the data. This is critical for all computer devices both external and internal. Since 1 minute of Super8 stored at 10 Bit uncompressed HD in 23:98 PSF is about 8 Gigabytes per minute. You need some killer speed to play this file in real time. But no matter how slow your computer is you can transfer the data to your computer or just access the data from the drive, compress it and you can play it.
Some Basic Rough Super8 Numbers: Super8 @ (Mpeg2 DVD) 40 Megabytes per minuteSuper8@ (Dv compressed) 250 Megabytes per minuteSuper8@ (10Bit SD) 2 Gigabytes Per minuteSuper8 @ (10Bit HD @ 23:98PSF) 8 Gigabytes per minute To get the best encoding you have to start with the best digital version of Super8. We usually go directly from Super8 to SDI video (Serial Digital 4:2:2) into the encoder We can also go to digital tape then from tape to the encoder with the same quality provided we are always encoding from a higher quality source. For Mpeg2 we could first go to Mini DV. (Serial Digital 4:1:1) with the same quality as 4:2:2 but we would not make a 10 bit file from taking this path. We would have to go to Digital Beta. If you transfer Super8 to VHS and then encode to DVD verse Super8 to SDI 4:2:2 to DVD. The quality difference will be amazing. You never want to transfer from a high quality medium to a low quality and then back to a high quality. This is true with all image forms including the new world of images on computer. A big mistake would be to put Super8 directly on Mpeg2 DVD if you want to edit it with a program that uses DV compression. You will see a significant loss of quality when transcoding from MPEG2 to Dv compressed. If you transfer Super8 to Dv Compressed then edit and make a DVD with the same system you will see a significant improvement in quality. Within the computer world as with all images you can always transfer between one form and another and can even get this encoder for free on the internet. But there are different quality levels of encoders and you never want to go from low to high quality when you have a higher quality to begin with.


The best quality computer file of Super 8 in standard definition would be a 10 bit uncompressed file. These files are big so prepare to keep this on a large storage device like an external hard drive. Calculate your need at approximately 2 Gig per minute for Standard Def and 8 Gig in High Def. You will probably not be able to play this large file on you current computer system. But you can bring this file into your world then using your edit program to compress them down to a size your present system can handle.
At this time at Pro8mm we are already working with many customers that get their Super8 scanned to HD and we deliver 10 bit uncompressed files on portable hard drives. These companies then transfer the files into there computer as needed and with their edit software compress the data to there desired project working standard. If a project is for the internet it has to be compressed down to the standard required to travel at internet speeds. A project on You Tube has to be 100Mb or less. Since that is just over 1 minute of DVD quality how do they do it? On a computer, the size of the image can be changed along with the number of frames per second. By making images smaller you can compact them much more than if they have to stay the standard size for television. You Tube, like so many of the internet world players have their own compression technology that will take what you send them and compress it to fit in their space. As you will no doubt experience the way this data gets compressed on the output makes a huge difference as to how it looks. You can take a look at a 1 minute sample of the 2006 Pro8mm demo up on You Tube I did several years ago (Search Pro8mm and look at A Super8 Sample) and you will see how badly the compressor handles my file. I uploaded from a 1 minute Mpeg4 .mov file that looks fantastic on my laptop. Compare this to a 6 minute version of the 2008 Pro8mm Demo we recently compressed to play on Flash on the Pro8mm new web site and you can see how important compression and the players are to the final quality of your work. Both of these come from the same standard def Digi Beta original transfer of Super8.
Compressing Super8 for small screen applications has some exciting possibilities for Super8. Because of the way compacting acts on an image the difference between originating on larger film such as Super16 and something shot on Super8 is much less apparent. Simply put the smaller you make an image the more difficult you will find judging what format it was produced on. The first time I viewed and internet music video I worked on I had to go back to my notes and check what format the job was originated on. Since I look at this type of material every day I was more than a little shocked that I could not tell weather it was Super8 or Super16. I completely enjoy the unique look of super8…. a uniqueness that is more apparent the larger you make it. It is also exciting to know that the smaller you make it, the easier it is to fool an audience into believing a production was produced at a much higher level.
When working toward an internet release or even DVD it is also possible to work with much smaller much more compressed files. You don’t need to start with a 10 bit version of your Super8 if your objective is the internet. You could have your film encoded with compression so you can work with much smaller files. In DV compressed, about 18 minutes of Super8 would fit on a DATA DVD. Since the file is small most computers will easily play the file and you don’t need a large storage device. Everything you do in editing will run much faster with smaller data. Big files require a lot of time to move. A terabyte of data traveling over a USB 2 connection between a computer and hard drive will take over 16 hours. This kind of slow movement is not a lot of fun when you’re up against a deadline. So although 10 bit is the best in terms of information, it may not be the most practical if you want to rapidly get out a project for DVD or the Internet . . . The world of images is ever changing and you will no doubt discover new and interesting ways to work with Super8. Every day I see a project that pushes the way we understand the limits and the possibilities of Super8 film. New technology is often an incredible way to enhance what we already enjoy. What I find so interesting about Super8 is how adaptable and enjoyable the look is not only on Super8, but on video, on a computer, in a theater, in High Definition, or even downloaded on the internet.Encoding Super 8, by Philip Vigeant


Encoding is the process of converting motion picture images into something that can be played in a computer. Computers handle film images differently than it does analogue video or digital video. Because this is a new way to look at pictures there are many changes to the traditional ways we look at them. As with all new things there a lots of choices and big companies are trying their hardest to make themselves the new standard. Things are changing so rapidly that I fear even this article might have some outdated notions before it gets published. But since so many super8 users are exploring these options I thought it would be good to try and explain some of the exciting opportunities for Super8 users in the encoded world.
There are two areas where the computer has proven itself in moving images beyond any argument. First in its ability to edit and manage and second as a way to deliver content cheaply and quickly to an audience. Although these both run through a computer the objectives and the strengths and weakness are completely at opposite sides of the image universe. On the one side you have 35mm features being edited digitally at 2K and now even 4K resolution. On the other you have You-Tube the lowest quality images imaginable that is revolutionizing the film business. The maximum and the minimum resolution have included Super8 film, and being a part of both extremes for what is clearly completely different reasons.
Let’s start with the Max. To max out what you have on Super8 in a computer you have to understand the working parameter of modern computer and storage. Even though Super8 is the smallest form of motion picture film it takes enormous amounts of data to describe each frame. A 10 bit uncompressed minute of Super8 stored at 4:2:2 1920 X 1080 High Definition resolution is 8 Gigabytes of raw data at 23:98PSF. In short hand, this is what most people call 1080p, favored by most people that originate in film. If you work in 1080i which is 29.97 interlaced images, recorded at 59.94i, it would be 10 Gig per minute. In short hand 1080i is preferred by most people who originate in video. In standard definition the same minute of 10 bit uncompressed would be approximately 2 Gigabytes per minute.
Unless you’re in the professional post production world you will probably not have the capacity to play such large data files in real time on your home computer system. This will change as computers and storage devices get faster and cheaper but for now you’re out of luck. For this reason most information is compressed in some way so that lesser systems can handle this amount of data traveling at the speed necessary to play it. The good news is even though you can’t play these files in real time you should be able to access them and convert them to something you can play. One of the advantages of computer digital is that you don’t have to have an expensive tape machine to have a very high resolution version of your images that you can directly access. To do the top quality in Standard Definition in digital video tape you need a Digital Beta deck which costs about $40,000.00. With a 10 bit file you can have the same quality on a hard drive that you can axis from your laptop, so you can get axis to high quality without the expense of high end video decks. This will become even more important as you investigate High Definition. Unlike SD that is dominated by Digital Beta, HD has many competing tape formats that can run over $100,000.00 per deck. With the ever dropping cost of Hard Drives and computing speed this workflow is much more practical for independent filmmakers.
Regardless of how you compress the files it is helpful to start with data put into a form that is most compatible with your system. In Mac World the folder form is .mov which is usually played with a QuickTime Player. In PC world the folder is .avi and the player is most often Windows Media Player. You can play some .mov folders in Windows and some .avi files in Mac but this can get sticky at times. There are also many other players and formats…more about that later.

Once your raw data is put in a folder you have 100 different options on how to compress your motion picture images. This type of compressing is called a Codec. Compressing can be done with a software program or it can be done with a hardware based compressor. Hardware based compressing is often very fast and can usually work the data in real time. Software based encoders will often have to crunch on the data for some time to deliver the new file compressed. Some Codec’s’ are very universal like mpeg2, the one used for all DVD’s. Some are exclusive to particular programs like Macs’ new Pro-Res 422 designed for their new Final Cut Studio 2. You can think of a codec like a tape digital format such as DV Compressed, which is supposed is to be roughly the equivalent to Mini DV in the computer world. On thing that is very different about computer digital is that you can dictate to the program that is doing the encoding what quality level you desire. The program that controls the encoding can adjust parameters including the over all quality, the size and even the number of frames stored per second.
(Optibase Encoder Board)

At Pro8mm we use a hardware based encoder for doing DV compression files. A DV compressed file at its best resolution setting is storing 30 (29.97 exactly) frames per second. This is approximately 1 gigabyte for 4 minutes of Super8 film, (250 Meg per minute). This would be 8 times as compressed as a 10 bit uncompressed file of standard definition raw data. When we compress to the Mpeg2 codec we use an Optibase Hardware Encoder which also has a variable quality setting. In this situation we want the best quality but we need it to play on the average DVD player. Through experience of making thousands of DVD’s of Super8 film we have found the optimum to be a compression that works out to be about 40 megabytes per minute.
One of the more confusing parts of computer based images is to know all the parameters that are needed to get an image to play on your system. For example why will your computer play a commercial DVD and not a 10 bit .mov file? Most computers, having the programs to do so can play a 10 bit file, but they can not play it fast enough to watch it in real time. There is simply not enough speed between it’s’ storage form which is the DVD drive, the computer, and the display. For example my home laptop will not play even a DV compressed folder from a DVD, but it will play a DVD with MPeg2 recording. But if I drag the folder of DV compressed files from the DVD to the desktop it will play. The speed from my DVD player is sufficient to run Mpeg2 but not Dv compressed. The speed from my internal hard drive is fast enough to run DV compressed. If I try to run a 10 bit HD file of 23:98PSF in my computer with Windows Media Player it will play, but it will skip frames and often chokes on the process. If I play the same file in QuickTime it will not work at all. Once you have some of the parameters down you can do incredible things but you need to be prepared when entering this workflow on how to put it all together.
DVD’s can be used in a multitude of ways as both a vehicle to play images in a home player and to store computer files. The DVD is defined not only as a medium but by what is recorded on the medium. The DVD that is designed to play in a DVD home player has files encoded with the codec Mpeg2. In addition these DVD’s have header information so the player can recognize it and the information that can be organized with chapter stops and menus. The DVD’s we use to record on are DVD-R which is the most universal next to the commercial DVD. Some older home DVD players will not play a DVD-R even though the correct data is recorded on them. This is due to the reading systems of the first home DVD players. You can also use a DVD-R as data storage for computers. In this form of DVD, files can but place on the DVD for retrieval by computer systems. In addition to DVD single sided recording you can also use DL dual layer DVD to expand the capacity to 8.5 Gig on a single DVD. To play what is on a DVD you have to have the right hardware and software to do the job. For example if you have home DVD player you can look at the spec page to see what format DVD this player will play. Will it play DVD-R or DVD+R? Most computers are designed to play the different formats of DVD but you have to have the correct software on you computer to play the program. For example you could have a DVD+R DL that have a DV compressed .mov file. So if you computer has DL DVD capacity and a QuickTime Player you should be able to play this file provided your computer has the speed to handle it.
Once you start playing with movie files you quickly see how limited 4.7 Gig of space of is. The solution to this problem is an external Hard Drive. Portable hard drives are the perfect way to transport large data files. Hard Drives range from a low number gigabyte to terabytes. They can have 4 different types of connection and many have some combination of these 4: USB2, Fire wire 400, Fire wire 800 and E-sata. USB2 preferred by PC and Fire wire 400 preferred by Mac can handle the same speed of transfer between your computer and the hard drive. Fire wire 800 about doubles that and E-sata about doubles Fire wire 800. The transfer rate between your computer is important for two reasons. If you are just taking files from your drive and loading it into your computer it takes about 1 GIG a minute at USB2 speed to transfer the data. 40 gigs of data take 40 minutes. If you want to play the data from your drive on your computer without transferring it to your computer then the connection speed must support the data rate needed to play the data. This is critical for all computer devices both external and internal. Since 1 minute of Super8 stored at 10 Bit uncompressed HD in 23:98 PSF is about 8 Gigabytes per minute. You need some killer speed to play this file in real time. But no matter how slow your computer is you can transfer the data to your computer or just access the data from the drive, compress it and you can play it.
Some Basic Rough Super8 Numbers: Super8 @ (Mpeg2 DVD) 40 Megabytes per minuteSuper8@ (Dv compressed) 250 Megabytes per minuteSuper8@ (10Bit SD) 2 Gigabytes Per minuteSuper8 @ (10Bit HD @ 23:98PSF) 8 Gigabytes per minute To get the best encoding you have to start with the best digital version of Super8. We usually go directly from Super8 to SDI video (Serial Digital 4:2:2) into the encoder We can also go to digital tape then from tape to the encoder with the same quality provided we are always encoding from a higher quality source. For Mpeg2 we could first go to Mini DV. (Serial Digital 4:1:1) with the same quality as 4:2:2 but we would not make a 10 bit file from taking this path. We would have to go to Digital Beta. If you transfer Super8 to VHS and then encode to DVD verse Super8 to SDI 4:2:2 to DVD. The quality difference will be amazing. You never want to transfer from a high quality medium to a low quality and then back to a high quality. This is true with all image forms including the new world of images on computer. A big mistake would be to put Super8 directly on Mpeg2 DVD if you want to edit it with a program that uses DV compression. You will see a significant loss of quality when transcoding from MPEG2 to Dv compressed. If you transfer Super8 to Dv Compressed then edit and make a DVD with the same system you will see a significant improvement in quality. Within the computer world as with all images you can always transfer between one form and another and can even get this encoder for free on the internet. But there are different quality levels of encoders and you never want to go from low to high quality when you have a higher quality to begin with.


The best quality computer file of Super 8 in standard definition would be a 10 bit uncompressed file. These files are big so prepare to keep this on a large storage device like an external hard drive. Calculate your need at approximately 2 Gig per minute for Standard Def and 8 Gig in High Def. You will probably not be able to play this large file on you current computer system. But you can bring this file into your world then using your edit program to compress them down to a size your present system can handle.
At this time at Pro8mm we are already working with many customers that get their Super8 scanned to HD and we deliver 10 bit uncompressed files on portable hard drives. These companies then transfer the files into there computer as needed and with their edit software compress the data to there desired project working standard. If a project is for the internet it has to be compressed down to the standard required to travel at internet speeds. A project on You Tube has to be 100Mb or less. Since that is just over 1 minute of DVD quality how do they do it? On a computer, the size of the image can be changed along with the number of frames per second. By making images smaller you can compact them much more than if they have to stay the standard size for television. You Tube, like so many of the internet world players have their own compression technology that will take what you send them and compress it to fit in their space. As you will no doubt experience the way this data gets compressed on the output makes a huge difference as to how it looks. You can take a look at a 1 minute sample of the 2006 Pro8mm demo up on You Tube I did several years ago (Search Pro8mm and look at A Super8 Sample) and you will see how badly the compressor handles my file. I uploaded from a 1 minute Mpeg4 .mov file that looks fantastic on my laptop. Compare this to a 6 minute version of the 2008 Pro8mm Demo we recently compressed to play on Flash on the Pro8mm new web site and you can see how important compression and the players are to the final quality of your work. Both of these come from the same standard def Digi Beta original transfer of Super8.
Compressing Super8 for small screen applications has some exciting possibilities for Super8. Because of the way compacting acts on an image the difference between originating on larger film such as Super16 and something shot on Super8 is much less apparent. Simply put the smaller you make an image the more difficult you will find judging what format it was produced on. The first time I viewed and internet music video I worked on I had to go back to my notes and check what format the job was originated on. Since I look at this type of material every day I was more than a little shocked that I could not tell weather it was Super8 or Super16. I completely enjoy the unique look of super8…. a uniqueness that is more apparent the larger you make it. It is also exciting to know that the smaller you make it, the easier it is to fool an audience into believing a production was produced at a much higher level.
When working toward an internet release or even DVD it is also possible to work with much smaller much more compressed files. You don’t need to start with a 10 bit version of your Super8 if your objective is the internet. You could have your film encoded with compression so you can work with much smaller files. In DV compressed, about 18 minutes of Super8 would fit on a DATA DVD. Since the file is small most computers will easily play the file and you don’t need a large storage device. Everything you do in editing will run much faster with smaller data. Big files require a lot of time to move. A terabyte of data traveling over a USB 2 connection between a computer and hard drive will take over 16 hours. This kind of slow movement is not a lot of fun when you’re up against a deadline. So although 10 bit is the best in terms of information, it may not be the most practical if you want to rapidly get out a project for DVD or the Internet . . . The world of images is ever changing and you will no doubt discover new and interesting ways to work with Super8. Every day I see a project that pushes the way we understand the limits and the possibilities of Super8 film. New technology is often an incredible way to enhance what we already enjoy. What I find so interesting about Super8 is how adaptable and enjoyable the look is not only on Super8, but on video, on a computer, in a theater, in High Definition, or even downloaded on the internet.

Friday, January 23, 2009

Pro8 HD 3 Ways to Check it Out!




3 ways to experience it!

If you are like most filmmakers, you are considering what is best way to move into High Definition. Skeptical or not, the format war on disk is over, and blu ray paves the way. Super 8 in 1080i or 1080p resolution looks so phenomenal from our M2 Scanner, that we know once you see it for yourself, you'll see the potential for your market. At Pro8mm, HD scanning is not "up-rezed" in a computer the way some places do it, using "line doubling" to get to 1080, but a true native HD scan off the original film. A client recently described Pro8mm HD this way.... "it is like getting a new pair of glasses! Everything is just so incredibly vivid! You really do have to see it to believe it! " We have 3 different ways for you to experience just how incredible Super8 looks on Blu Ray.




Test it for $108.00! We will give you a roll of Pro8mm film and processing for free, or send in one unedited roll you have already shot. We will prep and clean it and scan it to blu ray. A sweet deal!




New for 2009, our Pro8 HD Demo on Blu-Ray Disk has representative samples of many of the Pro8mm film stocks, shot on all of our different Super 8 cameras. The demo includes Max 8 footage, archival scans of regular 8 and super 8 reformatted from 4x3 to 16x9 in 1080i or 1080p. A $20 deposit will be taken on the disk, refunded when returned.




Enter our Think Big Shoot Small Film Festival Challenge, now in HD! We are currently accepting entries now through May 1st 2009. This is a great way for you to test for yourself how Super8 looks on HD. Make a short film on a single roll, selecting from any of our 15 Pro8mm film stocks. All editing is done in the camera without splicing. Send the roll back to Pro8mm to be processed and scanned to Blu Ray Disk on our new Millennium II HD Scanner. Entries will be judged by our distinguished panel. The highlight of the festival is the screening and party at an LA venue (TBD) on us in June 2009. Don't miss this opportunity to network with other contestants and have a great time on our dime!!! Entry fee $108.00. Great prizes! We will raffle off a camera! Forms available at http://www.pro8mm.com/



First Prize: 12 Roll HD Movie Trailer Package Second Prize: 8 Roll HD Movie Film Package



Third Prize: 4 Roll HD Movie Film Package



Honorable Mention: Several Gift Certificates for HD scanning.






By most estimates, there were roughly three million standalone Blu Ray players sold in the USA in 2008. ( A standalone player is one that just plays Blu Ray and standard-def DVD's, as opposed to a Play Station 3, which is a gaming console and Blu Ray player.) But thanks to lower prices and positive word of mouth, Blu Ray player sales will really start to boom this year. Combining Play Station 3 and standalone Blu Ray players, more than 25 million U.S. homes will have Blu-ray capability by the end of 2009. Be ahead of the curve and get your material on blu ray. You can't afford not to make your work really stand out !!